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Should a country be able to join a defence alliance while it is at war?

A rule nobody wrote down, argued about every time it comes up.

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What people are weighing

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  • An alliance that excludes the attacked rewards the attackerYes, that is what alliances are for
  • Joining mid-war imports somebody else's war aimsNo, it drags everybody in
  • Every current member joined in peacetime

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What people said · 3

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Elin H.@elin_h· 5 Sept

No, it drags everybody in

An alliance that admits a war admits the war, not the country.

88 called it the strongest case

Tomas R.@tomas_r· 6 Sept

Yes, that is what alliances are for

A promise only made to the safe is not a promise, it is a preference.

79 called it the strongest case

Gustav H.@gustav_h· 10 Sept

No, it drags everybody in

The clause only means anything if everybody knows what it will cost. Admitting a member mid-war means nobody can price it, including the attacker.

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